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Hey gang! Just thought I'd update the blog a bit, since Halloween is over and whatnot. Below is an immediate update on what is happening in the world of wolves, and the bottom contains external links to other news. Keeping you informed is the best way you can engage the "enemy"!

MISSOULA, Mont.—The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals today heard arguments from both sides of a lawsuit alleging that Congress acted unconstitutionally when it removed wolves from the endangered species list and cleared the way for wolf hunting seasons now underway in Idaho and Montana.

An attorney representing the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation and other conservation groups presented oral arguments supporting the Congressional action, wolf delisting and science-based, state-regulated management and control of wolf populations.

The court is expected to issue its ruling soon.

“We’re hopeful for a quick and favorable ruling, especially since a lower court already ruled against the plaintiffs—a coalition of animal rights and environmental activist groups,” said David Allen, RMEF president and CEO. “Our opponents don’t seem to care that in some areas, elk calf survival rates are now too low to sustain herds for the future. We support a more balanced approach to conservation.”

Today’s hearing was held in a Pasadena, Calif., courtroom. RMEF and Safari Club International led two different groups granted intervenor status in the case. An attorney representing their collective position was given seven minutes to present arguments.

Key facts of the case include:

·Wolves were relocated from Canada to Idaho, Montana and Wyoming in 1994 as a “nonessential, experimental population” under the Endangered Species Act.
·The wolf population in each state passed stated recovery goals some 10 years ago.
·Current wolf populations across the three states are known to exceed 1,700 animals, and in many areas are out of balance with biological and cultural tolerances.
·Conservation has succeeded in America because of science-based, state-regulated management and control of wild species, including predators. All evidence suggests this system also would work well for wolves.
·Litigious animal rights and environmental activist groups have managed to keep wolves under full federal protections for much of the past decade.
·RMEF was among the first groups to call on Congress for a legislative remedy.
·In April 2011, Congress passed a measure that delisted wolves in parts of the West.
·Congress did not, as plaintiffs claim, violate “separation of powers” when it partially delisted wolves. In today’s hearing, attorneys presented ample legal precedents supporting the Congressional action. RMEF joined the other conservation groups in asking the appellate court to uphold the favorable ruling issued in August by U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy in Missoula, Mont.

Allen said, “If they lose this decision, plaintiffs could take their case to the U.S. Supreme Court. But I’m hoping that a Congressional act, two courtroom defeats and an American public that is clearly tired of all this legal wrangling will encourage our opponents to give up—and cede responsible wolf management and control to conservation professionals in each state. But we’ll have to wait and see.”

RMEF continues to fight wolf lawsuits and support delisting legislation at both federal and state levels.


RMEF jumps in the lawsuit against wolves in Oregon: www.rmef.org/NewsandMedia/News…
Review the oral argument presented by the "pro" side: www.scribd.com/doc/69195621/Re…
Poll in Montana from 2005 shows 57% of the state support delisting of wolves, 28% oppose, 15% undetermined - this number has increased to around 85% in support: helenair.com/news/state-and-re…
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genkistamps Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
WHY PASADENA. GTFO WOLFABOOS.
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sulfide Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Right? I did find this very interesting, though. From the Ninth Circuit Court's website:

"The Ninth Circuit Watch has received considerable traffic as it expands its coverage but the volume of cases written by various panels creates a challenge. We originally decided to publish summaries of immigration cases decided by the Ninth Circuit because its panels reverse immigration judges repeatedly on baseless appeals."

Coincidence or not, I find that rather hilarious. An appeals court hearing about wolves that normally hears cases on illegal immigrants (in case you might be confused by that, the whole debacle started because the states argued this was a non-native subspecies of wolf).
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genkistamps Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011
I remember the Ninth Circuit Court being part of another stupid case that made me glad I don't pay taxes (yet.) I think it was the "pissed off atheist sues over pledge for his daughter/freedom of speech/fuck if he knows what the reason is he's just pissed?"

Is the Ninth Circuit Court where stupid cases go to die?
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sulfide Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2011
LMAO. Probably. 8D
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wolfforce58 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
It'll be interesting to see where this all goes...I don't get why people are so against REGULATING wolves. It's not eradication here, it's regulation. We do it to almost everything out there (sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worse...like our forests with fire-exclusion is worse, but proper forest thinning can actually make the area less susceptible to natural disasters, pest species like bark beetles that kill trees, and helps host a wider diversity of native plants and animals in a healthy ecosystem). I found out recently that our mountain lions here in California are actually heavily guarded like they want these wolves to be (used to be a 'pest' species to be targeted, then hunting them was cut off completely after a while, and now you can't even do so much as bring in mountain lion parts from other states). I know plenty of people who are paranoid of being attacked by cougars now, or have had close encounters with them in unusual circumstances, and even seen videos of GROUPS of mountain lions, 7-10 strong, living together. A solitary animal! SCARY stuff. Wolves are pretty danged persevering, so I'm sure they'd get to be much, much worse. Then there's just the plain facts that they're not endangered, those wolves were part of an experimental population who not only reached their target number but far surpassed it and have been protected even when they really shouldn't have been.

The saga continues. ǝɹoɯʎuɐǝɯɐƃɐʇousʇı
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sulfide Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
This was posted just today on a wolf fanatic page on Facebook.

"<<WOLF SPIRIT>>
FIRST to give you the latest BAD NEWS on the Wolf Hunt Challenge.
1) it was held in Pasadena, CA, by a 3-judge panel in the 9th circuit of appeals.
2) TWO INJUCNTIONS (to stop the wolf hunts) Have Been DENIED (bad news)
3) Further decision is PENDING. The Safari Club & NRA sided With the Gov't, who the wolf advocates Challenged. Attorneys For the Defendants' (the gov't, Safari Club & NRA, said the Plaintiffs (the advocates), are No where near passing the test, to ask for a court for an Injunction, meaning the wolf advocate groups DO NOT have enough proof to have cause to Stop the wolf hunts & the Defendants made fun of them for bringing Two wolves(or wolfdogs) & 'I Love Wolves' signs outside of the courtroom. SO...Bottom Line...At this TIME 5:45pm EST, THERE IS NO GOOD NEWS & NO HALTING OF THE WOLF HUNTS, at THIS TIME. court is now closed ofcourse. *It was also Noted that the Gov. of WY made a Deal with Ken Salazar to have Wolf Hunts in WY, next yr!
(DOW was not apart of these smaller 3orgs filing...they have appeals in another court, in another state, they are collecting more data, to be more prepared...because so far...NONE of these other groups are winning in ANY state, yet are still collecting donations, which are making some headlines?)"

I'm confused by the last statement: "...NONE of these other groups are winning in ANY state, yet are still collecting donations, which are making some headlines?" Are they referring to THEIR groups still taking donations? Dumbasses LOL.

I plan on listening in to the hearing tonight, found the link on this pro-wolf site: [link]
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wolfforce58 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Well, sounds like all hope is lost for them by what they're saying XD

But I followed your link, and couldn't help but notice this "gem":

"There are many reasons to reverse wolf delisting from the Endangered Species List. These include the following: (1) Tested, workable alternatives (to killing) are available for addressing wolf-livestock issues. (2) Leghold traps cause unspeakable suffering, and bloody deaths by shooting do not neutralize humanitarian concerns related to pain and suffering. (3) Wolves live in loyal, intact families that suffer emotional and survival consequences when an adult family member never returns. (4) The wolf population is in an emergent stabilization process that remains tenative and frail.

I urge your reconsideration of wolf delisting relative to these factors and hope that those who reside where wolves have been reintroduced practice the view that man is not the lord of the earth but is, instead, its keeper."

If this is the kind of stuff those pro-wolf people are pushing (doubt it though since this was just a comment made on the page), then they stand no chance.
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sulfide Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
It is the kind of stuff they're pushing, and you're absolutely right, they stand NO chance...

The "wolf cult" (lol) has been losing momentum over the years... THANK GAWD...
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wolfforce58 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Haha, I used to be one of those insane "wolves are GOD-LIKE" peoples XD It's nice when common sense and reasoning finally kick in and take over.
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OliveTheBreloom Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh my, this is.... slightly disturbing.
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